Sparks wrote:The good thing with 914 is that the game is far from finished yet, so there's plenty of room and time to make perhaps 100s of different outcomes before the game is done.
Also the function, that if you put 2 items or more into 914 it would make an item out of them, like a keycard and the navigator would make the navigator both a key and a navigator.
(Not 100% of the time though)

Yes, and hello sparks ^.^
914 is a really cool scp and it deserves more capability then just a few. Every Item needs 5 differet outputs or more. and that would make 100s of different ideas.
Putting a P90 in 914 will make a alien gun from the movie District 9 :mrgreen:
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Perhaps it could be a different gun each time. All broken, perhaps misfiring and hurting you if you attempt to pick them up.

Okay, you know, I've been adamant about adding guns in the game, a big no no. But.. seeing as the Suicide Guard is here and there just can't be a cheap "It's empty" or "He used the last bullet" etc, it just sounds too cheesy actually I think in order to force the player not to encounter a gun/weapon in the game.

Here's my idea:

Make it a near fully loaded p-90 the player can use with first person viewmodel etc, but make it hard to shoot and extremely realistic. There's only 15-29 bullets in the clip and that's probably all the ammo you may ever get in the game. When you shoot it, the sound can make you blink repeatedly, after all, your shooting a very very loud firearm, your going to blink/flinch.

Shooting at:

SCP-173 -- Blinking will most likely kill you near instantly before you can unload more than a few bullets into that concrete bastard.

SCP-106 -- Goes right through him, doesn't even faze him.

SCP-096 -- In his retrieval log he does actually get torn in half by an anti-tank rocket, although even 50 caliber bullets don't even effect him. If you shoot him he just turns to face you because you caught his attention and you die soon afterwards, maybe 096 can have a little blood/bullet wounds from you shooting him, but that's pretty much it, you can't kill it. (I'm guessing 096 somehow regenerates after a period though? Maybe after consuming a target?)

SCP-772 -- These things are actually heavily bullet resistant, you could probably kill one with a full clip maybe, but it's highly unlikely. Bullets don't really affect them at all.

Mobile Task Force -- They wear heavy Kevlar and are much better with guns than the player, you could probably kill one perhaps with a few lucky shots/burst? You couldn't take down more than 1-2 though with just one clip at max I think though.

I always imagined the MTF's as having multiple layers of armour. i think 668 may be a good SCP to add, though, if we want OP as fuck weapons. And I mean OP as fuck.

I agree with everything Mirocaine said except one thing: the constant blinking

Cuz, well, just because is very loud it dosent mean it needs to be bliking all the time. Well just for a example... Im 15 and sometimes i go hunting with my dad and i can shoot 3 shotgun shots without bliking... (just a example)

But remember, there are dead guards in some places who can have more rounds ..

26 Fe + Mexican food =: lets see if you're oh so mister oh so smart
26 Fe + Mexican food =: who am i
ShadowDust: IronFajitas
26 Fe + Mexican food =: fuck
ShadowDust: *flies away*

Make the gun really inaccurete and unable to shoot down sights. :mrgreen:

SalmonHeart88 wrote:All in favour of at least a message saying that "This gun is empty" say i.

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Mirocaine wrote:Okay, you know, I've been adamant about adding guns in the game, a big no no. But.. seeing as the Suicide Guard is here and there just can't be a cheap "It's empty" or "He used the last bullet" etc, it just sounds too cheesy actually I think in order to force the player not to encounter a gun/weapon in the game.

Here's my idea:

Make it a near fully loaded p-90 the player can use with first person viewmodel etc, but make it hard to shoot and extremely realistic. There's only 15-29 bullets in the clip and that's probably all the ammo you may ever get in the game. When you shoot it, the sound can make you blink repeatedly, after all, your shooting a very very loud firearm, your going to blink/flinch.

Shooting at:

SCP-173 -- Blinking will most likely kill you near instantly before you can unload more than a few bullets into that concrete bastard.

SCP-106 -- Goes right through him, doesn't even faze him.

SCP-096 -- In his retrieval log he does actually get torn in half by an anti-tank rocket, although even 50 caliber bullets don't even effect him. If you shoot him he just turns to face you because you caught his attention and you die soon afterwards, maybe 096 can have a little blood/bullet wounds from you shooting him, but that's pretty much it, you can't kill it. (I'm guessing 096 somehow regenerates after a period though? Maybe after consuming a target?)

SCP-772 -- These things are actually heavily bullet resistant, you could probably kill one with a full clip maybe, but it's highly unlikely. Bullets don't really affect them at all.

Mobile Task Force -- They wear heavy Kevlar and are much better with guns than the player, you could probably kill one perhaps with a few lucky shots/burst? You couldn't take down more than 1-2 though with just one clip at max I think though.

SCP-772? That SCP isn't even in game yet. That wasn't really relevant bringing it up on this thread.

ShadowDust wrote:I agree with everything Mirocaine said except one thing: the constant blinking

Cuz, well, just because is very loud it dosent mean it needs to be bliking all the time. Well just for a example... Im 15 and sometimes i go hunting with my dad and i can shoot 3 shotgun shots without bliking... (just a example)

But remember, there are dead guards in some places who can have more rounds ..

Although without the flinching/blinking from a loud firearm, it makes the player capable of unloading a ton of rounds into 173 and basically just going "Wtf that didn't do anything, this is dumb." The blinking punishes them for trying it, just like the Guard at the Intro.

As for more ammo, I'm worried the game might turn into Doom 3 or something with all this action and confidence of your firearm, etc. It just doesn't seem right to me IMO that a gun should be empty or have the last bullet used by the guard, perhaps we could replace the P90 with a low ammo capacity sidearm? That'd be much better actually..

Soulzarath wrote:SCP-772? That SCP isn't even in game yet. That wasn't really relevant bringing it up on this thread.

http://scpcbgame.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=553
It's a bit sunk down right now because I'm focusing on the forest and traveling IRL; it is confirmed for implementation once I finish it, I'm going to do a resculpt of it for normal maps etc.

@Soulzarath First, don't double post to write one insignificant character.

Second, Mirocaine in fact is developing a model for the specimen of 772, if you didn't know at this point, to which Regalis gave him the green light for finishing the model.

It's completely relevant.

Omniary wrote:@Soulzarath First, don't double post to write one insignificant character.

Second, Mirocaine in fact is developing a model for the specimen of 772, if you didn't know at this point, to which Regalis gave him the green light for finishing the model.

It's completely relevant.

How fast will it be?