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Re: Gun Control In The U.S.A.

#11 by INFINITE561
Steelpoint wrote:Honestly irrespective of your own personal view on gun ownership, I feel that the best way to prevent gun violence, or any form of violence, is to tackle the mental health issues. Many of these killers, in the US, and whatnot have a history of mental health problems that were not addressed. It seems like the US prefers to go after the problem and not the source, banning guns instead of looking at the actual problem of mental health for example. Though this is my personal view on the issue.

In Australia, in 1996 we had the Port Arther massacre, 35 people were killed and over 20 more were wounded in this event. Guess what, the perpetrator had a history of mental health problems. The attacker was captured and sentenced to 35 life sentences in prison (1,035 years). This event led to very tight laws over gun ownership, today only about %5 of Australians own guns. Fortunately for Australians we have never had a big problem with gun violence to start with. Also fortuantly we have a high Health Care standard in Australia, which would equate to better assistance to those with mental health problems, I know that from personal experience.

Ultimately the US needs to tackle the mental state of people in need, banning certain kinds of firearms and other measures won't do you any good.

If he can't use a gun he will use a knife, if he can't use a knife he will use a rock, if he can't find a rock he will use his hands.
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Re: Gun Control In The U.S.A.

#12 by Steelpoint
What is this Reddit? You don't need to point out minor mistakes in grammar and punctuation.

If we are doing that here is some critique of your post.
1. No capital at the start of your sentence.
2. No full stop at the end of your sentence.
3. Why is the word "after" in capitals?

If you don't have anything to contribute to the topic at hand then don't post in that thread.
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#13 by hug0905
Steelpoint wrote:fortuantly
you really need to fix that typo, steelpoint.

On topic: if your talking about the gun issue of 2012, someone killed alot of people and kids, it sounded like a sad moment in history :sad:
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Re: Gun Control In The U.S.A.

#15 by Steelpoint
Seem to be quite a few Pro-Gun supporters on this thread, if you were to ask me I would actually be against the ownership of firearms without good cause. (Meaning your occupation requires the use of a firearm, such as Farmer, Police, Guard etc). I just honestly don't see a good reason for someone to own a firearm, the excuse for personal defense never really resonated with me, mainly considering my origins in Australia where Firearms are heavily restricted.

In Australia, for example, we have 6 categories of firearms, each of them having different levels of control. The first five are below, note that I copy pasted.
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Category A: Rimfire rifles (not semi-automatic), shotguns (not pump-action or semi-automatic), air rifles, and paintball markers. A "Genuine Reason" must be provided for a Category A firearm.

Category B: Centrefire rifles (not semi-automatic), muzzleloading firearms made after 1 January 1901. Apart from a "Genuine Reason", a "Genuine Need" must be demonstrated, including why a Category A firearm would not be suitable.

Category C: Semi-automatic rimfire rifles holding 10 or fewer rounds and pump-action or semi-automatic shotguns holding 5 or fewer rounds. Category C firearms are strongly restricted: only primary producers, occupational shooters, collectors and some clay target shooters can own functional Category C firearms.

Category D: Semi-automatic centrefire rifles, pump-action or semi-automatic shotguns holding more than 5 rounds. Functional Category D firearms are restricted to government agencies and a few occupational shooters. Collectors may own deactivated Category D firearms.

Category H: Handguns including air pistols and deactivated handguns. (Albeit both SA and WA do not require deactivated handguns to be regarded as handguns after the deactivation process has taken place. This situation was the catalyst in QLD for the deactivation and diversion of thousands of handguns to the black-market – the loophole shut since 2001) This class is available to target shooters. To be eligible for a Category H firearm, a target shooter must serve a probationary period of six months using club handguns, and a minimum number of matches yearly to retain each category of handgun.
The last category is the restricted weapons category. Basically you cannot own any of these weapons unless they have been deactivated, and that you have a permit for that.
Machine guns, rocket launchers, assault rifles, flame-throwers, anti-tank guns, Howitzers, artillery.
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Category R/E: Restricted weapons: machine guns, rocket launchers, assault rifles, flame-throwers, anti-tank guns, Howitzers, artillery, etc. can be owned by collectors in some states provided that these weapons have been rendered permanently inoperable. They are subject to the same storage and licensing requirements as fully functioning firearms.
If the US government wanted to ban firearms, which I think will never happen, they should look to the above categories on at least a good definition of what kind of firearms fall under what category.
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#16 by Awesomeguy147
@hug: stop bringing that up, the government already does that enough. Besides if they hate children being killed then why do they support abortions.

That one guy is a smart person.

@Steelpoint: So according to your logic, not being able to defend yourself when someone is holding a gun towards you is not a good reason to have a gun.

Here is how gun control works: Gun is illegal, Bad guy has gun anyways( Because he is a criminal, HE DOES NOT F***ING CARE), Good guy has no gun, Good guy is dead, Bad guy profits

Here is how guns are supposed to work: Guns are legal, Bad guy has gun, Good guys has gun, Bad guy dead before maximum damage is done, 1 less piece of s*** in the world, Darwin profits.

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#17 by Insanity's Bane
Gun Control is pretty stupid, and as Awesomeguy has already used one of my arguments I bring up on the topic, I also want to note that anyone who tries to counter it with "Oh, well, the UK has gun control and they have less crime!" is a moron, for several different reasons.

1) America is not the UK.
2) The UK is strict, almost excessively for some. Unlike in the US, where our laws are much different.
3) Switzerland has guns up the ass, even encouraging it at times yet has one of the lowest crime rates in the world (IIRC).
4) The mentality in America is not the same as in the UK, which makes us go to a full circle back to reason 1: our cultural differences cause us to think differently. Taking guns away would be a bad thing and would only cause more harm (as Awesomeguy has already demonstrated in his post).
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#18 by rarityismahwaifu
Mister Mc' Spikkens wrote:Who said anything about abiding by the law?

Fight the power.

EDIT: On a philosophical note to avoid getting this post deleted, yes, gun laws are becoming worse and worse in the U.S.A, but it's the people's fault for electing a president who says "buy a shotgun, make everything else illegal". I mean, some gun laws dissalow "assault rifles" (firing 5.56mm rounds) versus allowed "normal rifles" (firing 7.62mm rounds) the difference being that the 5.56mm rounds would stop in the first person they hit versus 7.62mm rounds going through two people and possibly hitting the third. That's not exactly what I want from the president.

Should I ellaborate more, the 7.62mm round is extremely similar to the .308 round in which the legal AK-47 uses. That means the goverment is litterally banning the arguably wrong weapons. They even put a bayonet mount under assault category. That amazes me as they make that a possibly bannable attatchment versus a suppresor which is 100% legal to use given the right lisence.
Which 7.62mm?
Do you mean the 7.62x54mmR, the 7.62x39mm M43, the 7.62x39mm M67 or the 7.62x25mm?
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#19 by rarityismahwaifu
Awesomeguy147 wrote:Here is how gun control works: Gun is illegal, Bad guy has gun anyways( Because he is a criminal, HE DOES NOT F***ING CARE), Good guy has no gun, Good guy is dead, Bad guy profits
Yeah I don't get the whole "guns being illegal will stop gun murder" view.
For fuck sakes murder is illegal and gun or no gun their going to do that anyway.
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#20 by Ketercheat
MonocleBios wrote:
mrpeanut188 wrote: Obama is our biggest problem. Last year's elections there was a voter count above %100. So that means that there were dupes, and other cheats. Except that the number was a huge one.
In the US, most presidents who earn the state of Ohio most of the time get elected. In Ohio, 99.9 percent of voters voted for Obama. That's an statistical impossibility. Previously it was
a %70 %30 relationship, it mysteriously rises to %99? And worse, nobody tried to enforce any laws. Obama should be exported to his place of birth. Kenya, Africa.
You should be glad that a 'first past the post' system has a lesser effect on your federal elections. Having 3 (Up to 5 if you consider Bloc and Green to be viable parties with the current system) significant parties isn't fun when it almost always results in gerrymandering and/or a minority government.
I think that's a poe.


On-topic: having guns is fine as long as you don't shoot people for no reason.
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