Re: Stay on topic

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Boatman wrote:I think this is fine as it is. I enjoy visiting the off topic section, as i did in other game-forums. You have to consider that most of the community aren't modders, and thus can't contribute to these sections. As for the game itself, most of it has been talked over and over or is already known, because the game is no longer new.

When a big update comes around that will bring lot's of new features about which you can write a lot, then general discussion will flame up, i'm sure. But with nothing to discuss, the activity will diminish in the game related sections.

I think Off-topic is fine as it is. It wouldn't help the game related sections if we started to impose strict limits on the OT.

You mentioned that you were active in collaboration and modding. If you need more modders for projects, i think the way to go will be by recruiting them in the OT, as i think it is the go-to place for everyone in the community. It is nice to see that you care about the forum, very cool actually. As long as we have members like you, this forum will not go down the gutter that easily. Thank you!
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Re: Stay on topic

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Boatman wrote:I think this is fine as it is. I enjoy visiting the off topic section, as i did in other game-forums. You have to consider that most of the community aren't modders, and thus can't contribute to these sections. As for the game itself, most of it has been talked over and over or is already known, because the game is no longer new.
That even further proved my point that people are losing interest.
Boatman wrote:When a big update comes around that will bring lot's of new features about which you can write a lot, then general discussion will flame up, i'm sure. But with nothing to discuss, the activity will diminish in the game related sections.
As it's been for ages? The game gets newer every update, and more people get interested. As more people come, the more they want to see what's going on for development. Once they lose interest, they start flooding the Off-Topic Subforum. If we restrict the Off-Topic forum a bit, then not as many people will only go there.
Boatman wrote:I think Off-topic is fine as it is. It wouldn't help the game related sections if we started to impose strict limits on the OT.
The less people fucking around is more or less for the better. Maybe they'd become bored of going through a restricted Off-Topic Subforum and actually want to help.
Boatman wrote:You mentioned that you were active in collaboration and modding.
Mhmm, I am. I'm also trying to pick up where Chris left off on the SCP-650 model, which is going okay for me.
Boatman wrote:If you need more modders for projects, i think the way to go will be by recruiting them in the OT, as i think it is the go-to place for everyone in the community.
This is the reason I'm a bit angry with the community. They go to Off-Topic and don't even think to try and contribute or look to see what's happening with the game.
Boatman wrote:It is nice to see that you care about the forum, very cool actually. As long as we have members like you, this forum will not go down the gutter that easily. Thank you!
Thanks to you as well. I don't want the forum going down because of a large number of members crowding the Off-Topic section just to post shit/troll/post pointless posts.
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Re: Stay on topic

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While most of these are all very good points to go by, I do have to agree with Boatman about the Off Topic subforum. The off topic forum is there for the specific reason of discussion outside the game, it's kind of pointless to restrict it so people will talk more about the game. I agree that there should be more people talking about the game rather than playing video response games and whatnot, but that's their own agenda. I have a vague feeling that if we were to restrict where people post, then they might just leave. I do highly encourage posting in the CB sub-forum rather than the off topic forum as a moderator, however.

I also feel like a reason there isn't much discussion on the game is the lack of administrators/moderators actually discussing it, I mean, Regalis comes on periodically (he has uni to attend to, so that comes first), Steelpoint I think still checks around here but doesn't post, and I don't know where Sparks is. The other 4 or so moderators do post about the game every so often, but it isn't really common.
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Re: Stay on topic

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Omniary wrote: I also feel like a reason there isn't much discussion on the game is the lack of administrators/moderators actually discussing it, I mean, Regalis comes on periodically (he has uni to attend to, so that comes first), Steelpoint I think still checks around here but doesn't post, and I don't know where Sparks is. The other 4 or so moderators do post about the game every so often, but it isn't really common.
Since you brought up the moderators, I'll like to say that I am not seeing the moderators impose the rules too much. Aside from a few verbal warning and locking threads, I haven't seen much punishment when an user breaks a rule (except in the more severe cases). There has been times in which a member massed spammed various threads and the moderators did nothing about it, as far as I can see. I also see many people ignoring things like double posting, or going off-topic to just doing stupid things. I think that the moderators should be harsher when enforcing the forum rules, if not people will continue breaking them.


Going back to the off-topic subforum discussion, if you look, the off topic has around 30900 posts. While General and collaboration have 10000 and 8000 posts each. See what I am saying? The amount of posts in the off topic is much greater than the collaboration and general combined. Even if you add modding, you still aren't reaching the amount of posts off topic has. Really, the point of the forum is to talk about the game, not random stuff. We have the skype group for that.
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Re: Stay on topic

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spartan322 wrote: Since you brought up the moderators, I'll like to say that I am not seeing the moderators impose the rules too much. Aside from a few verbal warning and locking threads, I haven't seen much punishment when an user breaks a rule (except in the more severe cases). There has been times in which a member massed spammed various threads and the moderators did nothing about it, as far as I can see. I also see many people ignoring things like double posting, or going off-topic to just doing stupid things. I think that the moderators should be harsher when enforcing the forum rules, if not people will continue breaking them.

Agreed. Mods should be at least a bit harsher. I often get flamed for trying to "correct" certain people aka criticize their behavior. However, that leads to nothing obviously.
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Re: Stay on topic

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spartan322 wrote:Going back to the off-topic subforum discussion, if you look, the off topic has around 30900 posts. While General and collaboration have 10000 and 8000 posts each. See what I am saying? The amount of posts in the off topic is much greater than the collaboration and general combined. Even if you add modding, you still aren't reaching the amount of posts off topic has. Really, the point of the forum is to talk about the game, not random stuff. We have the skype group for that.
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Re: Stay on topic

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Yes, there are a lot of forums games that aren't that needed really. Once again, it makes sense to have the 914 game since it is SCP related, however things like the add a word to the story, or video response or rate the song thread are taking over. I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any forum games, but that they should be a small thing on the forums, not something that gets spammed until they reach a hundred pages.

I would also like to point out that very much like the Foundation Discussion, other SCP games were part of the Off-Topic discussions. These things made sense for them to be in there, but they had to be moved because they were swarmed by other threads. I am not saying that the off-topic should only have SCP related stuff, but that the amount of threads is getting excessive. You know there have been many threads that were completely pointless throughout the life of the forums, and that sometimes they get pointlessly filled with posts that add nothing of value.

This brings me to my next point. Locking threads. It seems that when a person asks for a thread to be locked, people start posting random stuff before it is closed. Seriously, if the thread is being locked, stop commenting in it, unless you have a good reason of why it shouldn't be locked. I find it really stupid when people make posts that go from a countdown from 5 to 1 in which each posts it a number. You KNOW who you are. If a thread is being locked, just let it be, don't start posting random stuff or doing a stupid countdown because it is a waste of time.
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Re: Stay on topic

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spartan322 wrote:Since you brought up the moderators, I'll like to say that I am not seeing the moderators impose the rules too much. Aside from a few verbal warning and locking threads, I haven't seen much punishment when an user breaks a rule (except in the more severe cases). There has been times in which a member massed spammed various threads and the moderators did nothing about it, as far as I can see. I also see many people ignoring things like double posting, or going off-topic to just doing stupid things. I think that the moderators should be harsher when enforcing the forum rules, if not people will continue breaking them.
Just because you don't see it happening doesn't mean it's not happening. I issued a warning to the user who mass spammed via PM, simply because I didn't want to draw attention to something that wasn't anyone elses matter.

Every time I see a double post (which is rarely I might say), it gets edited or if the case was just someone posting the same thing twice on accident, it gets deleted. I personally don't think the moderators should be harsher (since the word had a fairly negative connotation), but I think more vigilant would be a better suggestion. Also, it depends on each moderators discretion how a certain situation is dealt with, so there isn't a definitive way to work (we're not robots or dictators).
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Re: Stay on topic

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Omniary wrote: Just because you don't see it happening doesn't mean it's not happening. I issued a warning to the user who mass spammed via PM, simply because I didn't want to draw attention to something that wasn't anyone elses matter.

Every time I see a double post (which is rarely I might say), it gets edited or if the case was just someone posting the same thing twice on accident, it gets deleted. I personally don't think the moderators should be harsher (since the word had a fairly negative connotation), but I think more vigilant would be a better suggestion. Also, it depends on each moderators discretion how a certain situation is dealt with, so there isn't a definitive way to work (we're not robots or dictators).
Alright then, I stand corrected. However, I still think that the mods should be more strict. Since most of what you just said is done on private, other members don't realize how they shouldn't act. I am not saying that the mods should be control freaks, but that they should be more strict and enforcing the rules in a way that prevents the members from breaking rules rather than reprimanding them after they have done so.
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