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Re: SOPA is returning...God dammit...
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:19 pm
by spartan322
What angers me the most is that this is an American law that affects every country. Who gave them the right to pass global laws without the consent of the people? And how come Americans are the only ones that can sign the bloody petition?!
If they try to pass a global law (which is bloody stupid, since they should have no say on laws from other countries), everyone should have a say on it.
Re: SOPA is returning...God dammit...
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:20 pm
by Trialtrex21
Tomgrakk wrote:I'm sorry I joined the conversation late, but I believe one of Trialtrex's original points was that the US government sneaked this bill through the approval process without consulting the people. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this seem a tad illegal? This violates the very essence of the country being a frelling democracy, i.e. a nation in which the people's approval is required to pass laws and bills like these. My belief is that the US government is desperate to pass this bill and will resort to underhanded tactics to do so.
The bill itself is an example of what seems to be pointless paranoia and power-tripping. What, do they think terrorists are giving each other classified information over YouTube? I'm actually not worried at all about SOPA; it's so unpopular with literally everyone that it will never last long enough to become a problem. If they try to enforce it, they had better be ready for the chaos that will no doubt ensue.
Well since the U.S. government is composed of a bunch of whiny, desperate faggots, I wouldn't be surprised if they went as far as to do something illegal just to pass a law that they know damn well won't.
Re: SOPA is returning...God dammit...
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:30 pm
by Sparks
Last time they tried, EU voted against SOPA too.
The entire european union was against it i think, not to mention google was against it too.
Re: SOPA is returning...God dammit...
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:30 pm
by LukeDude759
Tomgrakk wrote:I'm sorry I joined the conversation late, but I believe one of Trialtrex's original points was that the US government sneaked this bill through the approval process without consulting the people. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this seem a tad illegal? This violates the very essence of the country being a frelling democracy, i.e. a nation in which the people's approval is required to pass laws and bills like these. My belief is that the US government is desperate to pass this bill and will resort to underhanded tactics to do so.
The bill itself is an example of what seems to be pointless paranoia and power-tripping. What, do they think terrorists are giving each other classified information over YouTube? I'm actually not worried at all about SOPA; it's so unpopular with literally everyone that it will never last long enough to become a problem. If they try to enforce it, they had better be ready for the chaos that will no doubt ensue.
It also violates the Ex Post Facto law, which states no one can be punished for doing something before it was illegal. Say SOPA passes. In court, I could say "Yeah, sure, I uploaded videos portraying video games. It wasn't illegal then." If the judge and/or jury has any common sense, I'd get off without any consequence. But the way the government is now, they'd do anything to make sure SOPA stays in full effect. Offer the judge a promotion, bribe the jury, etc.
Sparks wrote:Last time they tried, EU voted against SOPA too.
The ntire european union was against it.
You don't say? It's not surprising, given that the entire world was against it.
Re: SOPA is returning...God dammit...
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:32 pm
by hug0905
LukeDude759 wrote:
hug0905 wrote:wait, did they also shut down megaupload, if they did then i will sign the petition.
Earlier, I wrote:They already shut down Megaupload last time.
And I hope you live in America, because
INFINITE561 wrote:I need to be AMERICAN to sign it!
i am not saying you did, but i think your clearly insulted me, i did know how megaupload got shutted down, but at the time, i didn't know what sopa is, i only knew that the fbi shutted it down, also i am american, want me to prove it?
Re: SOPA is returning...God dammit...
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:37 pm
by Trialtrex21
hug0905 wrote:i am not saying you did, but i think your clearly insulted me, i did know how megaupload got shutted down, but at the time, i didn't know what sopa is, i only knew that the fbi shutted it down, also i am american, want me to prove it?\
Er, does it really matter? Yes, we understand you are American. Yes, Megaupload was shut down by the FBI. Yes, the FBI shut it down because of SOPA.
Re: SOPA is returning...God dammit...
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:06 pm
by Ketercheat
It's fubar. We must declare independence and start our own country.
Re: SOPA is returning...God dammit...
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:08 pm
by WhiteAce
Ketercheat wrote:It's fubar. We must declare independence and start our own country.
We shall call it Gamers Safehouse. (Or safe country?)
Good news everyone we got TheRadBrad's support on this matter, right
here.
Re: SOPA is returning...God dammit...
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:17 pm
by ShadowDust
WhiteAce wrote:Ketercheat wrote:It's fubar. We must declare independence and start our own country.
We shall call it Gamers Safehouse. (Or safe country?)
Good news everyone we got TheRadBrad's support on this matter, right
here.
And where shall we declare independence of that magnificent country?
Re: SOPA is returning...God dammit...
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:19 pm
by LukeDude759
WhiteAce wrote:Ketercheat wrote:It's fubar. We must declare independence and start our own country.
We shall call it Gamers Safehouse. (Or safe country?)
Good news everyone we got TheRadBrad's support on this matter, right
here.
We should go discover an island in the Pacific. We'll make that our new country.
Edit: We should probably also make our own internet. Internet 2.0, we will call it!
