Seeing as how Commander, Nightmare, Glitch and myself seem to be the only ones who care about the mod anymore, I ask you three what you think of my new Twilight Sparkle backstory. There are a few things I still need to think out, they are mentioned in the story as you read. Sorry if I'm incorrect with my first statement, but we four seem to be the only ones who want to discuss and decide upon the matters at hand. I will say this one more time, Nightmare posted a list of...well...everything, and it needs more attention from the other developers.

Nightmare Tank wrote:OK, for the one THOUSAND and First time...What LTFs are getting designated what MLP-related entity (See spoiler for in-game LTFS)?

Spoiler

008 (Nightmare Forces presumed)
012 (CMC Theme presumed)
049 (Rarity discussed)
079 (Nightmare Moon or Discord contesting)
096 (Fluttershy presumed)
106 (Rainbow Dash presumed)
173 (Pinkie Pie presumed)
294 (Applejack discussed)
372 (Scootaloo presumed)
420-J (Unknown)
500 (Zecora discussed)
513 (Sweetie Belle presumed)
682 (Spike discussed)
714 (Alicorn Amulet discussed)
789-J (Unknown)
895 (Nightmare Moon discussed)
914 (Twilight Sparkle presumed)
990 (Mare Do Well possibly)
1025 (Perplexing Pony Plagues presumed)

Are we colouring the infection overlay a dark-blue-purple to imply Nightmare Forces?
Are we going with Pony or Glitch's backstories?
Are we using mine or Bronami's pages in Mr. Peanut's files for 1025 (See spoiler for attached comparisons)?

Spoiler

Mine:

Bronami's:

Twilight's backstory Please do not ignore me again, I absolutely hate being ignored. At the very least, acknowledge my presence.

Princess Luna wrote:Seeing as how Commander, Nightmare, Glitch and myself seem to be the only ones who care about the mod anymore

So the same exact people who were caring about it since this thread's creation?

Princess Luna wrote:I will say this one more time, Nightmare posted a list of...well...everything, and it needs more attention from the other developers.

Don't you think we should get a Project Head first so that we can actually have someone organization in this project?

Princess Luna wrote:After the Elements of Harmony had infused themselves within the Mane 6

Don't you think you should go with a different idea now? How does fusing a pony with an element not kill them? Or have them explode due to the amount of energy in the elements?

Princess Luna wrote:A few weeks later, she'd become obsessed with making objects better then they were before.

I take it this is the pony form of Steve Jobs?

Princess Luna wrote:She came with many spells

Wat?

Princess Luna wrote:These spells are as follows: rough, course, 1:1, fine, and very fine (Descriptions are still WIP).

If Twilight wanted to make objects better, why would she make a Rough, Coarse, and 1:1 setting?

Princess Luna wrote:The creation of the "very fine" spell had caused Twilight Sparkle to feel so inclined to using her spells that she no longer wanted to leave her containment chamber for anything.

........

Princess Luna wrote:if the other developers agree with me)

Yes, bow down to your developer overloads.
Seriosuly though, what do you mean by "the" developers? Glitch?

Princess Luna wrote:Please do not ignore me again, I absolutely hate being ignored. At the very least, acknowledge my presence.

Just because we don't respond to your posts doesn't mean we don't see them. You're starting to act really desperate lately and it's getting annoying.

CommanderPro100 wrote:Don't you think we should get a Project Head first so that we can actually have someone organization in this project?

Yes, and I agreed with your idea, but Monocle won't let up. So I decided to not say anything about this in my reply in an attempt to be rid of his complaints.

CommanderPro100 wrote:Don't you think you should go with a different idea now? How does fusing a pony with an element not kill them? Or have them explode due to the amount of energy in the elements?

No. Well an excessive amount of energy was released when Twilight's element had fused with her, does that count as an explosion? I'll think that over.

Princess Luna wrote:She came with many spells

:empty: I really need to fix that. How did I forget to place the two letter word "up" in this?

CommanderPro100 wrote:If Twilight wanted to make objects better, why would she make a Rough, Coarse, and 1:1 setting?

Her goal was the "very fine" spell, but she failed three times to make a positive refinement spell, and she felt that the "fine" spell wasn't good enough.

CommanderPro100 wrote:..........

I wanted to make a story for Twilight that allows the use of a pony model for Twilight to replace SCP-914, not just a retexture it.

Sorry about the annoyance. I'm not as good at modding as you guys are (in fact I'm as useful as a pile of toenail clippings), and I feel I need to prove myself. Obviously I still haven't.

Princess Luna wrote: I wanted to make a story for Twilight that allows the use of a pony model for Twilight to replace SCP-914, not just a retexture it.

Sorry about the annoyance. I'm not as good at modding as you guys are (in fact I'm as useful as a pile of toenail clippings), and I feel I need to prove myself. Obviously I still haven't.

Well, unless I didn't read that this story doesn't evolve a breach, WHY would she be in one?

I know that logic doesn't take place in a mod like this, but that doesn't mean sense shouldn't exist.

The only way I would think of it is she went insane.

I really really hate that I'm asking this, but should I just ditch the stories for the mane 6 and just stick to the backstory?
Oh wait, your answer is yes.
Guys seriously, if you don't care so much about the story, then why all the criticism. If you truly didn't care about the story then you'd say, "do what you want with the story it's not gonna matter much anyway". The message you're sending me is, "we care so much about the story. Please don't stop working on it". You want sense? Then start makin' sense yourselves.

Princess Luna wrote:I really really hate that I'm asking this, but should I just ditch the stories for the mane 6 and just stick to the backstory?
Oh wait, your answer is yes.
Guys seriously, if you don't care so much about the story, then why all the criticism. If you truly didn't care about the story then you'd say, "do what you want with the story it's not gonna matter much anyway". The message you're sending me is, "we care so much about the story. Please don't stop working on it". You want sense? Then start makin' sense yourselves.

No, I mean in the game.

In real life, would someone stand in the middle of a breach? Maybe in a barricaded office, But that doesn't mean if they know there's safety bunkers that they go in it.

Do I dare reply?
I guess I do.
Honestly, I'm just gonna shut up about story now. You guys are so picky about something that you apparently don't care about. My brain hurts trying to make sense of you guys. For a mod this big, a one sentence backstory isn't gonna make sense of everything. I get your message, you hate me. Why don't you care for the story, other than "it's too hard" or "it doesn't make sense"? Here's why, you all have a fricken grudge against it because it tore your team apart last thread. That doesn't excuse your hatred for story guys. I'm gonna ask around to get a better idea of how good my story really is, and what the fans want. I have remained pretty level headed, but you have forced me to my breaking point. For once I would like to see some positive replies from you guys. That's what tore you guys up last thread, you never see the bright side of anything. Here's another thing. Wanna know why we have reached over seventy pages and have had little progress? It's because we will discuss a topic such as what 895 will be, and leave it undecided. That's why we haven't gotten that far yet, because we have decided on very little in seventy plus pages of a thread. It seems to me the only people who cared were Nightmare and myself. Glitch is losing interest, in fact he hasn't posted anything on this thread in over twenty-four hours (if I remember correctly). Commander edited his first post in the last thread to say that he doesn't care, but now he's helping the mod again. I'm confused, do you or do you not care? This leader discussion should never have happened. Nightmare was already our leader. Now that you've seen what little progress we've made, you question his leadership? He's not the problem, I already explained the problems we're having. Now I understand what drove the last team apart, and it's beginning to do it again. Think hard about what I have said, because it's all true and you know it.

Princess Luna wrote:-snippy snip-

Holy shit, I never noticed that.

I'm not going to enjoy writing this, but it seems it has to be done.

Princess Luna wrote:You guys are so picky about something that you apparently don't care about. My brain hurts trying to make sense of you guys.

We just don't want the story, ideally if we were having a team effort to write this story, we would discuss all our ideas beforehand, have everyone agree on story ideas, then have someone with good writing skills to flesh it out, honestly we've done none of this.

Princess Luna wrote:For a mod this big, a one sentence backstory isn't gonna make sense of everything.

A mod this big? We are taking an open source game and replacing SCPs with ponies, this is a task one guy can complete on a slow weekend, which I haven't done myself because I have only recently got a working computer monitor, I have work, and I still can't find out how to convert dmx formats.
And yeah, we totally need a big complex story full of epicness and M Night Shyamalan style plot twists, that's what all the great games have, Portal, Shadows of the Colossus, Limbo...

Pony wrote:I would just like to say that I like your idea, don't get me wrong.

Apparently not.

Princess Luna wrote:I get your message, you hate me. Why don't you care for the story, other than "it's too hard" or "it doesn't make sense"? Here's why, you all have a fricken grudge against it because it tore your team apart last thread. That doesn't excuse your hatred for story guys.

Perhaps we just don't want a story?

Princess Luna wrote:I'm gonna ask around to get a better idea of how good my story really is, and what the fans want. I have remained pretty level headed, but you have forced me to my breaking point. For once I would like to see some positive replies from you guys.

Princess Luna wrote:Honestly, I'm just gonna shut up about story now.

It's a process.

Princess Luna wrote:That's what tore you guys up last thread, you never see the bright side of anything. Here's another thing. Wanna know why we have reached over seventy pages and have had little progress? It's because we will discuss a topic such as what 895 will be, and leave it undecided. That's why we haven't gotten that far yet, because we have decided on very little in seventy plus pages of a thread. It seems to me the only people who cared were Nightmare and myself.

I do care, I just don't like the attitude this 'team' has towards it.

It's because we will discuss a topic such as what 895 will be

Would an idea for 895 cheer you up? Remove it, it does nothing good towards gameplay.

Princess Luna wrote:Glitch is losing interest, in fact he hasn't posted anything on this thread in over twenty-four hours (if I remember correctly).

I have not posted recently because I do not want really want to talk more about your story which you keep putting in our faces. Also..I have a life.

Princess Luna wrote:Nightmare was already our leader.

oh, oh yeah, no yeah go ahead. This thread became active because NightmareTank started his own pony mod and we are all pitching in ideas for him.
I also heard that you have been trying to get D-9999 to edit the source code for you, but she doesn't really want anything to with this, if only there was a coder on here who would willingly help with this game, maybe the guy who coded the previous mod? Oh wait, he doesn't like your story, lets replace him.

Princess Luna wrote:Now I understand what drove the last team apart, and it's beginning to do it again.

You know the story was one of the issue that drove us apart last time, so you introduce another story. I'm honestly not surprised in the slightest.

Princess Luna wrote:Think hard about what I have said, because it's all true and you know it.

All I've really gotten from this post is that you're butthurt that no one likes your story which this thread has mostly been about.

this non-sense displeases almighty doge.

Princess Luna wrote:Honestly, I'm just gonna shut up about story now. You guys are so picky about something that you apparently don't care about.

It's not that it's not cared about (At least in my opinion), it's that there's more important things at hand.

Princess Luna wrote:For a mod this big, a one sentence backstory isn't gonna make sense of everything.

Honestly Luna? It's a cosmetic mod, so it's not that spectacular. At the most, we might edit a few lines here and there of code, but I don't know if it'll be fully fixated on that yet.

Princess Luna wrote:Why don't you care for the story, other than "it's too hard" or "it doesn't make sense"?

Statement one, at least for me.

Princess Luna wrote:Here's why, you all have a fricken grudge against it because it tore your team apart last thread.

That, and they all lost motivation last time.

Princess Luna wrote:I'm gonna ask around to get a better idea of how good my story really is, and what the fans want.

Do if you must, but note there may be other things that require your attention more for this mod.

Princess Luna wrote:That's what tore you guys up last thread, you never see the bright side of anything.

Got a point, you know. There's minimal optimism here, and lack of optimism means lack of motivation, which means lack of progress.

Princess Luna wrote:Wanna know why we have reached over seventy pages and have had little progress? It's because we will discuss a topic such as what 895 will be, and leave it undecided.

Oh my Nightmare, I agree so much with this; we talk about something briefly and then get side-tracked by something else (Although to be honest with you Luna, most of the time, that's your story that side-tracks us. Maybe not brandish it as much at every last minor revision?).

Princess Luna wrote:It seems to me the only people who cared were Nightmare and myself. Glitch is losing interest, in fact he hasn't posted anything on this thread in over twenty-four hours (if I remember correctly). Commander edited his first post in the last thread to say that he doesn't care, but now he's helping the mod again.

Some of this I disagree with. In fact, most of it. Glitch hasn't been able to access a good enough workstation to post or do work on. Commander...Commander does care, but he has a very funny way of showing it, if I'm honest. But I can see he does somewhat.

Princess Luna wrote:This leader discussion should never have happened. Nightmare was already our leader.

While it's true I was trying to keep things organized (And get a Skype group running, but haven't even had one Skype Address at all to add), focused and lead the way as an unsung leader, I think the discussion was necessary to establish once and for all who's calling the shots, be it me, Glitch, or someone else.

Princess Luna wrote:Now that you've seen what little progress we've made, you question his leadership?

I have to be honest guys, I questioned this once I saw it as well. At least until I remembered that a project leader both has to bear leadership qualities, and be capable with the equipment being used (In this case, Source Code and the likes), which I'm not with some of it.

Princess Luna wrote:Now I understand what drove the last team apart, and it's beginning to do it again.

And this is pretty frustrating too. Need a regroup immediately.

Glitch wrote:I also heard that you have been trying to get D-9999 to edit the source code for you, but she doesn't really want anything to with this, if only there was a coder on here who would willingly help with this game, maybe the guy who coded the previous mod? Oh wait, he doesn't like your story, lets replace him.

What...?

Glitch wrote:You know the story was one of the issue that drove us apart last time, so you introduce another story. I'm honestly not surprised in the slightest.

Put like that, this does feel like a bit of a timebomb...

Glitch wrote:All I've really gotten from this post is that you're butthurt that no one likes your story which this thread has mostly been about.

this non-sense displeases almighty doge.

Here we go again, nobody can talk to anyone, nobody can say anything without a rebuttal (Which I'll probably get as well).